I cant remember how to unglue joints on existing soil pipe pipework, I think I used solvent and flame before and a wizzer. I cant cut into the main pipe and use new for various reasons. Im moving a soil pipe as the close coupling toilet is miles away from the wall. I have dug out to the bend, however i've got now where to connect a new fitting its all jointed to the outside wall. :roll: I think I know what to do Im just a bit loath to go a head and make things worse.