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Pressure Loss On Combi Bolier

 
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Bimboveloce



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:49 am    Post subject: Pressure Loss On Combi Bolier Reply with quote

Hi I have a Potterton Performa Combi boiler approx 6 years old, regulalry serviced. Probem is I keep losing pressure when the central heating is run, no issues on hot water only.

The wife had the central heating on for a couple of hours yesterday and the bolier lost nearly half a bar. Normaly have it set at 1.5 when cold

I have checked all my bleed valves, connections, drain taps etc for leaks and cant see any problems.

Where can the problem be, is is the boiler, the pipework? please help got 2 young kids and i need the heating on.

Mnay thanks
Tony
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htg engineer



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

With the heating on, does the pressure rise to above 3 bar?

Check PRV discharge, any leaks ?


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rosebery



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pressure/expansion vessel may need pumping up or the diaphram may be split.

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Bimboveloce



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can say i have checked what the pressure is when the boiler is producing hot water and central heating, i will have a look. As for the PRV seems to have collected some water from it, about 1inch in the bottom of a coke can.
How can i check the pressure/expansion vessel or if the diaphragm is split?
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Bimboveloce



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FURTHER UPDATE
Wife says heating has been on for 1hr, pressure is just over 2bar. When the bolier fires up the pressure goes up until is turns off and the reading is now 2.6, (in to the red zone) maybe why i am getting water from the PRV, but why is the pressure rising so much and into the red. Normal cold pressure is 1.5bar

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htg engineer



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 09, 2009 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try re-pressuring the expansion vessel. Release pressure from system, using a foot pump, pressurise to 1 bar.


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Bimboveloce



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks HTG for your reply.
Maybe silly question to ask but how do i re-pressurize the expansion vessel, where do i connect the foot pump and do i use the pressure gauge on the pump for reference?
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htg engineer



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There'll be a schraeder valve on the expansion vessl (like a car tyre) connect foot pump, and pump to 1 bar (on the foot pump gauge) then refill system.

If there's any water when the schraeder valve is pressed, the expansion vessel needs replacing.


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Bimboveloce



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy's I will try and pressure the expansion vessel and see if there is any water in it. I will let you know.

Whats the average cost to replace the expansion vessel if needed?

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Bimboveloce



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi HTG,
I released the pressure from the boiler by twisiting the PRV until the gauge said zero, i then repressurised the expansion chamber with a foot pump as your suggested to 1bar and repressuresed the system. Boiler is working fine, pressure seems constant and with no loss. I will continue to monitor and hope the issue is resolved, if not I will be back on.

HTG engineer many thanks for your help, it has been invaluable.

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Tony
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