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Postby Mr_Jolly » Fri Jan 01, 2010 11:19 am

Hi all and happy new year !

I have the mentioned boiler which every few weeks I need to bleed a few rads due to noise in the system.

The system was pressurized to 1 bar but I noticed the pressure keeps rising to 2 bar and very close to the red 2 1/2 bar.

The CH is set to max on the Greenstar and I have TRV's on most rads set at 3.

Any comments would be very gratefully received. Just wondered why I have to keep bleeding due to the noise and if the pressure is nothing to worry about.

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Postby rosebery » Fri Jan 01, 2010 12:13 pm

Air in the rads is an indicator for bleeding - what sort of noise - is it air?

When you repressuise with the system cold then it should be between 1 and 1.5 bar. Your boiler MIs will tell you what it is for yours.

When the system heats up the water expands so the pressure rises. The expansion vessel absorbs the expansion and limits the pressure rise. It may be that the expansion vessel has lost some pressure or the internal diaphragm is damaged.

If the system pressure rises too much the PRV operates and discharges through the drain until the pressure returns to a normal level.

So you shouldn't worry about the presure rising under normal operation from 1 bar to 2 bar or even a bit higher.

Its the noise thing that concerns (interest not panic!!) me - can you describe it a bit better?

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Postby benn_plumbing » Fri Jan 01, 2010 8:51 pm

hi 1st thing if the pressure gets high only when the boiler is working ie fired up then the fault could be with the expansion vessel or it could be a partial blockage either way i would get it looked at just incase because its not working the way it should. 2nd thing with the rad need constant bleeding especially as often as you're sayin sounds like a small leak and air getting into the system thus causing noises. hope ive helped
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Postby Mr_Jolly » Sat Jan 02, 2010 7:22 pm

Hi and thanks for the replies.

The noise is definitely air. After bleeding all seems fine for about 2 weeks when the air noise starts again.

The manual stated 1 bar re pressure which is what I pressurised it too. The pressure has now risen to 2 bar and never goes below that it rises when been called for heat to 2 1/2 bar.
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Postby NeilMar » Sat Jan 23, 2010 12:38 am

Your expansion vessel needs topping up or replacing. As the gauge rises around to 2.5 bar with the heating on, check the pipe outside (copper), this usually goes straight down or curls back to the wall. It will more than likely be dripping (Pressure Release Pipe) if this pipe is dripping when cold or when the pressure is less than 2.5 bar the Pressure Release Valve is damaged too. This is where your loosing pressure. As the water content of the boiler drops, it will draw air in through the AAV (automatic airvent) and also if the boiler is lower than rads, they to will drop in water level. The vessel should be pumped up to 1 bar of pressure. and if re-occurs it will need replacing.
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