Minute Amount of hot water produced in new cylinder....ideas

Postby badger » Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:22 pm

I bought a solar heating system that included a 150 litre steel ('glass' lined) tank intended for unvented use. Because of its origin me and my tame Corgi plumber were dubious about using it unvented (it doesn't have all the CE / Kitemark stuff you'd get with a European one, so probably couldn't meet UK building regs even if installed entirely properly).
Now it's all up and running (but no solar input yet) it is producing ony 20 or so litres of 'hot' water. The top 10 litres or so are at 55° but it soon drops to less, and the probe thermocouple one-third down the tank (~40 litres from the top) takes over 2 hours to get from 19° inlet temp to 30°.
The only way I can get enough hot water for one shower and occasional washing-up is by setting the programmer to run 'all day'. The primary seems to be flowing fine and is set at around 65° (a bit hotter than used to be OK to fully heat my old cylinder). Primary circulation 'out' gets as hot as the 'in' after a very short period (minutes). Turning the pump up to '3' and closing the bypass had no effect, so I'm pretty certain it isn't a lack of heat input capacity. The supplier is as mystified as I am, but only bought a couple of these cylinders, so we have no history. He's prepared to swap it, but I need to rule out 'sillies' first.
Any suggestions?[/b]
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Postby Eco-Save-Dave » Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:38 am

I am wondering if there could be an airlock somewhere, therefore restricting the flow, possible in the coil (although that does not explain why the in/out out temps should be the same so quickly.
Is it a twin coil cylinder? Could you try connecting to the solar coil as a test?
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Postby badger » Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:28 pm

Thanks for responding Dave.
Turned out to be 'just' a crappy cylinder: the Chinese haven't mastered everything yet. Managed to get a miniature camera inside to see what was going on. The primary coils are 10mm microbore tightly coiled in a 4" 'drainpipe' up the centre of the cylinder, with holes here and there to let water circulate. This explains the apalling reheat performance.
Has now been replaced with a pukka Ariston twin coil (costing 4x the price) operating at mains pressure. Live & Learn.
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