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Extending a room into roofspace

Postby rollin » Thu Oct 28, 2010 6:21 pm

I am in the process of creating a larger ensuite bathroom by removing a wall between a current shower room and storage room. The dividing wall has now been removed. It was a recent (1980s ) wall and the 2 rooms would originally have been one.

I would now like to enlarge the space more by moving the back wall into the roof space. The new back wall would be just in front of the purlin shown in the photos. The distance from the original back wall is about 100cm.

The first problem is that there are no floor joists in the new floor area. I realise that extra floor joists will be required, but how are these installed and is it straight forward for a professional to do it?


When the room was split into 2, I believe a new doorway was created (doorway is to the right of the wc in above photo). The photo below shows this, and another purlin above it. The purlin stops at that doorway. As can be seen, this has obviously reduced the support for this purlin.


The previous owner seems to have got round this by using a long piece of angle iron fastened across the floor joists, with vertical members attaching to both purlins. This metal work is currently in the middle of the space and will have to be removed. Photos below show metalwork.




If the newer doorway is bricked back up, will this reinstate the support for the purlin and allow the metalwork to be removed?

Finally, which tradesman do I need to carry out this work? Builder or Roofer?

The aim is to end up with something like this..


Can anyone point out any flaws with this layout?
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Postby happyhacker » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:57 am

One thing to bear in mind is that the purlin (assume original) would have been supported at certain intervals. Can you find where they were? Then replicate those supports to your convenience. As long as the purlin is supported properly (down to supporting structure/wall) you could remove the bracing.

Put new joists in at same intervals as floor and bolt them to existing (say two bolts - and I mean a bolt with large washers and a nut on the end) at 600mm centres with a 1m overlap and the other ens on the supporting wall ovelapping the entire inner leaf or 100mm. At least that's what I'd do. The making sure the joist are exactly level with the ceiling below refix the ceiling to the joist being careful not to distort it.

I suggest you would need a builder who has a structural engineer to specify the work if not DIY (where you take the risk yourself). Remember if you take away the supports on the purlin it may not complain for a while and then one snowy night you hear a load crack!
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